Tuesday, May 19, 2015

Final Part: Two

          Seven Pounds is not just an original film made for an audience to find enjoyable. As it is to give an audience a new prospective on an individual's life as to why they did the things they did. When the film begins and ends with the same scene it ties together the whole plot of the story making it easier to understand, grasp, and to show the isolation in the flashbacks that keep reappearing. "In seven days, God created the world. And in seven seconds, I shattered mine"(Tim Thomas). A good and innocent man by the name of Tim Thomas killed seven people including the death of his beloved fiancĂ© in seven seconds which changed his life forever. He decides he's not worthy of living and gives back the lives that were stolen from those seven people to others by donating his organs. Donating eyes, lungs, liver, kidney, bone marrow, heart, and his own home that once belonged to his love and him to seven strangers was his way of giving back and giving it to strangers that deserve a life to live other than himself. Ezra, a blind salesmen talked on the phone with Tim in the beginning of the film started insulting and getting angry at Ezra on why he was the way he was."I'm actually starting to feel pretty bad for you, Ezra. Because I look at my life, and it is surrounded by so much beauty.. and you can't see shit"(Tim Thomas). It was surprising to see that as nice as Tim seemed he had no respect or sympathy for Ezra. But over time as Tim started to follow Ezra around to see the life he was missing out on Tim wanted to change the way he saw the beauty in life instead of always hearing it from people. Ezra got this impression from Tim that he was alienated, that he was isolated from the world but by the eyes given from Tim he wouldn't be alienated any longer. For Tim to be able to donate these organs he had to find a way to commit suicide that wouldn't destroy his organs but destroy his nerves."The first time I ever saw a box jellyfish, I was twelve. Our father took us to the Monterey Bay Aquarium. I never forgot what he said... That it was the most deadly creature on earth. To me it was just the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen"(Tim Thomas). Jellyfish symbolizes duality, a balance between good and evil which was the best tool for Tim's suicide. They give a harshness to life which is parallel to Tim and how harsh his life has been ever since the car accident. To think that something so beautiful can kill a person in the matter of minutes is such an odd resemblance.

          Technology advancements have changed the world dramatically. It has changed the way technology has become one of the most popular and intriguing pieces of art that is going to last forever. With new and updated technology being introduced weekly, where will this world be in the next few years. It concerns many that this world will lose a sense of social construction since people will be so busy with technology instead of people. In Craigslist JoeJoe takes a journey through a world with no money but his clothes on his back, his technology devices such as his phone and his computer. With the act of kindness and generosity Joe was able to survive through his journey of having no money but Craigslist. "If you take a snapshot of America today, what would it look like? As a country we're wealthy, diverse, and technologically sophisticated. Yet some say that we lost the sense of community that used to carry us through tough times. Today it's every person for themselves"(Craigslist Joe). Generations ago technology hadn't been a very popular aspect to the world since it was new and people were so used to socializing face to face. The sense of community was very much present. As looked in modern day face to face communication it's decreased excessively due to technology advancements. Some may think it's going to take away from the socializing and be more focused on email to email communications which will lose the sense of direct communication with a person. "Are we at a place in our society with the technology of the internet and websites and human interaction where we can take care of each other"(Craigslist Joe). Yes, it is much easier to communicate through technology giving people fast and straightforward information but it still fails to keep from noticing others actions and emotions towards certain situations."We have been so caught up in our own lives that we don't notice life outside our bubble"(Craigslist Joe). People are having technology be thrown in their faces and forget the world brought them in the past. They are trapped in the world of technology that they forget the people they care about and spend all their time on the internet when they could be spending it with their loved ones. 

          Press Pause Play is a documentary viewing the democratized that this world has become involving music and art. Technology today has made things easier to produce music where people who didn't go to film school can still be as successful or even more successful than ones that had gone to school for the making of productions. "It's that idea of this grey gew and this idea like if you have itty bitty bio machines that can replicate themselves there's nothing to stop the world being covered in grey gew. These little things are going to replicate themselves until there's nothing left of the world except for these little machines. Our culture potentially might sicome into that same principal where if everybody is a musician and everyone is making mediocre music, immensely the world will be covered in mediocrity... People become comfortable with mediocrity which to me is the danger"(Seth Godin).  If mediocrity keeps reoccurring in the future years the sense of creativity will be completely destroyed. Technology can be an easy way to get the job done but it can also destroy the ability to be able to get the job done by using other's own knowledge instead of cheating their way through everything. As more and more people try to produce different types of music it turns into a cacophony. Different mixtures of sounds are being thrown into different pieces of music totally changing the meaning of the way people saw the original song itself. "When you fall into the trap of confusing the artist and the audience and believe that the audience knows more than the artist is more authoritative, is more creative, more talented then art ends.Then you have something else, you have cacophony, you have simply an apology rather for democratization and it's wrong to confuse democratization and culture political terms with the creation of art which by definition is for better or for worse an elitist business"(Andrew Keen). The audience itself starts analyzing a mixture of a song to the point where they are getting the wrong message. Today, anyone could create their desired music, it's just that simple. Some random person could become famous easily in just discovering and messing around with new internet technology that it becomes less of an art and music institution. "Music today is sorta streamed to us. I people don't really sit at home with the record and listen to track 1 to track 15. We might go on Facebook, get a track on MySpace, get a track in an email. Music is this sort of stream of noise. I remember when I was a kid I went out and bought a record and it was this moment of this pure concentration and joy of listening to every bit and looking through the vinyl and watching the vinyl turn around and the needle in the groove. It's a full concentration and now is a thing where I always do something when I listen to music"(Anne Hilde Neset). Music use to be a beautiful thing and today it's so common to make music that it's just there in the background. People used to listen to words and analyze the meaning of the song and learn the morals that come out of each song. But in today's music there is no meaning or there's a meaning but it's meaningless. Music and art is a beautiful thing but when discovering new ways where anyone can make music through technology it loses the sense of beauty and destroys the music institution.  


          Fire and water are to opposites but can both protect and kill a human simultaneously. In the film Smoke Signals fire and water are very symbolic where the fire protected Thomas from getting burned in the fire and using water for healing Victor's father from his post traumatic stress.  "You know there are some children who aren't really children at all, they're just pillars of flame that burn everything they touch. And there are some children who are just pillars of ash, that fall apart when you touch them... Victor and me, we were children of flame and ash"(Smoke Signals). Thomas and Victor were children of the flame and ash. They were always around fire which protected them in ways in which they didn't know about. "Thomas I wish that fire had killed you"(Smoke Signals). Thomas and Victor never got along well. Victor always thought that he saved Thomas instead of his own son. He had a bad relationship with his father and started learning bad habits from him. As it is the opposite for water it embellishes the fire also a source in protecting and healing things from burning. Towards the end of the film Victor's father, Arnold dies, Thomas relates Arnold to salmon swimming upstream. "Victor I am going to make one more trip to the river and I am going to toss these in and your Dad's ashes will rise and rise into the heavens, just like the salmon. Funny I was thinking about doing the same thing myself. I mean I never thought of my dad like a salmon but it would be just like cleaning out the attic, like throwing things away when they have no more use"(Smoke Signals). Salmon spend their whole life in the water swimming upstream and get beaten against the rocks. This is very symbolic to Arnold and the life he lived because growing up around natives they struggle daily through obstacles about being different from other people but really are the same as everyone else. Salmon usually swim upstream to spawn, to lay their eggs. But it can be dangerous and they typically die after two years of spawning. Arnold spending his whole life trying to heal and start his life over from where it went all wrong but he finally let go. Instead of rocks being beaten against the salmon, for Arnold it was the drinking and the angry he obtained making him so weak he couldn't handle his life anymore. The fire saved Thomas and the water symbolized the salmon and Arnold that he was represented as if he were always a salmon. He was always trying to heal from the water.  

        Today, many go through a daily routine of trying to numb one's pain and emotions by doing something that's simply just blocks every memory from them for a certain amount of time. When the thought or memory reappears they directly go back to the numbing of the pain. The effect that war gives on oneself comes off to be one of the most brutal and painful experiences one has ever dealt with. Especially Tayo a past soldier in the war dealing with his best friend and step brother Rocky getting killed right in front of him, he couldn't live with the pain and guilt of why he wasn't the one that got killed. "No, they say  coffee is bad for you. He laughed, and Tayo smiled because Harley didn't use to like beer at all, and maybe this was something that was different about him now, after the war. He drank a lot of beer now"(Silko 18). The use of alcohol can cure a human being for a certain amount of time feeling pleasure and taking the pain away from an individual but can always can be deadly if one has too much and poisons themselves to death. "Somewhere, as if the years, the centuries, were lost in that sound. The rain pounded louder on the tin roof, and she looked up from the note then, at the screen door and the cottonwood tree outside, its leaves beaten flat by the downpour"(Silko 91). Although it triggered Tayo in remembering about Rocky the rain gave him a healing sensation. Throughout the novel water started symbolizes the healing process in which healed Tayo. The Night Swan that Tayo makes love to resembles the ocean whenever she made love to anyone. She was the symbol for the season of spring and the how it is the start of new beginnings. "He saw her feet, the open-toe blue satin slippers and her painted toenails. The kimono was blue satin and it was wrapped around her closely outlining her hips and belly"(Silko 90). The blue symbolized that she healed people through water and she did to Tayo. Water protected and healed Tayo as he was going through a hard time throughout his past life. Tayo and his post traumatic stress has given him remembrance of the things that have put him through hell when he went to the war and this quote expressed the healing process in which Tayo has remembered things can be good again. 





Monday, May 4, 2015

Post #27 Music Video/Image


This video is about people going to war and having family seeing them again. People are at risk of death like the grandparents and will see the grandchildren again. The lyrics say see you again. Going to college and seeing there parents again. When they show people opening their hands and they are letting the spirit in and take control. It's a part of life when there are happy memories that are going to to be missed and become sad. The white sheets symbolizes that she's in heaven and she's looking down on who she misses. In memory of someone dying and not seeing them again. Being baptized brings people closer to each other and to god. A lot of christian values exist in this video with the heavens and listening to the lyrics. Editing tried to induce emotion by film quick shots and videos of memories. Fast flashing and bring the emotion as well like its them remembering people from the past.  Flashback to the memories with people as well as the grandma getting flashbacks to when she was younger. Focusing on peoples face's and seeing their emotions brings emotion to the audience and draws them in. Decor is present in this video because it is about her being an angel and it decorated like the heavens above. Lighting is bright and showing several glances of happy memories. Also the lighting is very bright in present tense scenes and darker when the the videos and flashbacks come upon each other. Thinking about the person you lost night and day. Looking at the newborns. Costume approach is when she's wearing an all white dress like an angel. Shots on the old videos taken. Depth of field is present when the soldiers open up their hands to catch their children. Framing when she's touching his face. Memorizing the voice in their heads. Deep space showing the american flag and the wreckage in the background.




Blown Away is a video where her father was abusive and showing her earlier life and what it was like. The black and white shot and zooming on his father drinking and not waking up is showing the dark and depressing side of her life. The mother left them because the dad was abusive to the mom. She is in the grave yard and looking for her mom in the cemetery like she's singing to her. The dad abused her to death and now just takes it out on his daughter. Always wants to run back home but the problem is at home. Wizard of OZ symbol, escaped to her dreams. Yellow brick, yellow house, yellow road and how bright it comes across. The windows are open and it is trashed and the father is laying in peace while the whole world is spinning around him. When she tries and gets close to her dad, he quickly shuts her out. Without her mother there she feels lonely and left behind. The house is falling apart since there is not adulthood present. The light hanging above her in the basement is her last hope and it's hanging on a thread. Point-of-view shot looking at her dad as if the camera was her looking at the damage. Birds eye view when she's looking at the light bulb. Constant jump shots to get a better reasoning on the video and the main idea.


Prisoners
Evil is taking over because its more than half dark
First drawn to the eye
In the boundaries of the door
Dark green means illness
The gun is out of focus 
James Franco in Spider Man
In this image it's first drawn to the eye
Torn between good vs. evil
Dad had a bad influence of him
He was looking at his dad but himself at the same time
Becoming like his father
Focused on his face
Zoomed in his face and how torn he is
Small light in the darkness where he is a good person but turning bad
Last scene in Lost
At peace finally
The torture is gone
Feels relax with his dog
Sucking the life out of himself
Feels beat and tired
Looks like he's dying
God looking down on his life
Healing

Craigslist Joe and The Empathic Civilization

          In the film Craigslist Joe a guy by the name of Joe takes a journey through a world with no money but his clothes on his back, his technology devices such as his phone and his computer. Throughout his journey he relies on technology including Craigslist to contact with people where he can stay the night and maybe even eat without spending any money. "If you take a snapshot of America today, what would it look like? As a country we're wealthy, diverse, and technologically sophisticated. Yet some say that we lost the sense of community that used to carry us through tough times. Today it's every person for themselves"(Craigslist Joe).  He wanted to take this adventure to see if he could survive a month and how he loses the sense of community which brings a lot of humanity. By asking strangers to stay the night he relies on people's act of kindness to help him through his month. Towards the end of the movie Joe comes into conclusion that technology helps people become more connected in the world but communicating with people."Are we at a place in our society with the technology of the internet and websites and human interaction where we can take care of each other"(Craigslist Joe). This quote that Joe stated in the film is very significant to what he was doing. He was proving to other people that technology can lead to taking care of people.

Empathy
          Back when cavemen existed they had no technology to connect with the world as much as we do today. Today, a modern woman or man's brain consist of entertainment from football, cellphones, and the addiction of coffee/caffeine drinking. Centuries ago a medieval serf consists of being social position, god, and food. The social life in the world has changed dramatically where today people are socially active on the internet more than a face to face communication."Is it really a big stretch to imagine new technology is allowing us to connect our empathy to the human race writ large in a single biosphere?"(The Empathic Civilization) Jeremy Rifkin the producer of this film starts off by talking about mirror neurons and how they have a connection with the empathize of human ability's. "Empathy is the invisible hand. Empathy allows us to stretch our sensibility with another so that we can go here and in larger social units. To empathize is to civilize. To civilized is to empathize"(The Empathic Civilization). Jeremy also talks about how empathetic solidarity has increased in the religious affiliation around the world stating that the life people live is vulnerable and fragile. When others compare lives they tend to feel each others pain and suffering that one is receiving."We have the technology to think viscerally as a family not just intellectually. When the earthquake hit Haiti and then Chile but especially Haiti within a hour the twitters came out and within 2 hours cellphone/ videos on youtube and within 3 hours the entire human race was in an empathic embrace coming to the aid of Haiti"(The Empathic Civilization). The technology that exists today is very fast and efficient. People will know breaking news in the matter of hours even if it's across the world. It's crazy to think that technology has come this far in the last few centuries and continues to grow rapidly. Every generation contains of new technology advancements that are faster and more high tech then anything before. Soon enough in the future generations people will do all social interactions of the internet and losing physically social attractions with one another.
Social Media 

Monday, April 27, 2015

Press Pause Play

         
Music Technology 
In the movie Press Pause Play it is recognizable that music and art is becoming more and more democratized in where music and art that took months to make in the past, now can be done in the matter of minutes. Every year that goes by the creativity of these certain things are becoming into more of a cacophony. 
"When you fall into the trap of confusing the artist and the audience and believe that the audience knows more than the artist is more authoritative, is more creative, more talented then art ends. Then you have something else, you have cacophony, you have simply an apology rather for democratization and it's wrong to confuse democratization and culture political terms with the creation of art which by definition is for better or for worse an elitist business"(Andrew Keen). Today it is become so easy to create music on the internet that critics are just discovering and messing around with new internet technology that it becomes less of an art and music institution. These artists have the power; everything happens around the artist. Real artists can develop their own brands. According to Andre Stringer and Tracy Chandler who work for Shilo stated that people can self produce a music video or a song and still be very successful. "There is an essence in the world of make it happen, do it yourself, who cares what the man says, who cares what the world says, you go out on the streets and skate. It's not like a designated team to set of a baseball game and it's like you just do it"(Tracy Chandler). If people are self taught then one will be as successful as one would if they were in filming school. Some may think that people don't need film school to be successful like the members of Shilo but not according to Adam Watson. Watson differently as in when popular film producers win awards and none of them had not gone to film school and usually doesn't hear about ones that haven't been in filming school. It is easier for film students to describe the way they are filming in well known film terms then trying to describe the filming process when hadn't gone to school. Technology has made things easier to produce where people can be successful even when they didn't go to school."It's that idea of this grey gew and this idea like if you have itty bitty bio machines that can replicate themselves there's nothing to stop the world being covered in grey gew. These little things are going to replicate themselves until there's nothing left of the world except for these little machines. Our culture potentially might sicome into that same principal where if everybody is a musician and everyone is making mediocre music, immensely the world will be covered in mediocrity... People become comfortable with mediocrity which to me is the danger"(Seth Godin). If mediocrity keeps reoccurring in the future years creativity would be completely destroyed. Today, people rely on technology to make things sound and look better which then becomes an even bigger democracy in the world.
Seth Godin
   

Modern Day Music 

          When using technology when producing music it's easy to fix just about anything to where the music doesn't sound like the artist themselves. By fixing and editing major things to the music being song is not creative nor has the performance present anymore. "In our post-Industrial age, because of atomization, loneliness, the breakup of community, the way to somehow reify, or deify ourselves, is through the creative act . . . everyone thinks they have a novel in them, everyone thinks they can make a movie or write a song . . .that’s why everyone is buying camcorders and putting their stuff up on YouTube . . . It’s a reality they don’t like, but most people don't have talent…so for a serious young filmmaker these are very depressing times"(Andrew Keen). What Keen is trying to express is that the fact that great art that once was known to be great art work today will get lost in all the democratization. Also that people in this era uniquely are obsessed with themselves rather than the great artists that would be lost in all the selfish acts. When producers produce the music to the maximum perfection it doesn't sound good because it loses its meaning and vulnerability to the song and meaning itself. "I personally find perfection of music and art to be off-putting. I like listening to Billy Holiday because there is vulnerability. I love listening to Nick Drake because there's vulnerability and imperfection. I get really almost intimidated and bored by perfect digital art"(Moby). When hearing music and the emotion the artist brings along with the song it gives the audience a special connection to the song. our cultural economy may be coming to an end with the diverse music and the more high tech the equipment becomes in future years."Music today is sorta streamed to us. I people don't really sit at home with the record and listen to track 1 to track 15. We might go on Facebook, get a track on MySpace, get a track in an email. Music is this sort of stream of noise. I remember when I was a kid i went out and bought a record and it was this moment of this pure concentration and joy of listening to every bit and looking through the vinyl and watching the vinyl turn around and the needle in the groove. It's a full concentration and now is a thing where I always do something when I listen to music"(Anne Hilde Neset). In the past if you liked a song in the album by a certain artist they would have to buy the whole album. But today if there's one track that wants to be bought that can happen. The environment is not the same when just buying a record and comparing it to being at a concert. The artists try and bring others in and approach the audience in a unique way. When comparing the music and art industry from then to now it's different and challenging. As years go on they have to come up with a new way to create a form or art or music to keep the audience surprised. Music is going to keep changing as generation keep coming along.  

Record Player







Monday, April 20, 2015

Chapter 1: Culture and Communication

Elite Culture
          Cultures in our society today can be defined as many things to different people. In the earlier centuries the elite culture and the popular cultures (mass culture) categorized people in class based on their wealth. "The elite culture consisted of fine art, literature, and classical music. Folk culture consisted of street carnivals, tavern drinking, and folktales "(Culture and Communication 4). This culture was specifically referred to as the "rich and famous" culture where they came from a lot of money. During this time the two main cultures couldn't come into each other's standings. The popular culture is referred to as a society that is for actions everyone that consists of our daily actions including things that entertain and our behaviors conditions. "... our attitudes, habits, and actions: how we act and why we act; what we eat and wear; our buildings, roads, and means of travel; our entertainment and sports; our politics; religion, and medical practices;our beliefs and activities and what shapes and controls them. In other words, it is to us what water is to fish: It is the world we live in"(Culture and Communication 4). When Ray B. Browne states this he means that all the things we do on a daily bases is automatically mass culture related society. As years and generations go by the cultures become less and less categorized than they were in the 19th century. In our society today all cultures are mass-produced by the help of technology and mass media. People usually recognize businesses by different brand types when glancing at the symbols. "Most of today's popular culture is mass-produced and is disseminated through the mass media. Popular music, cheap paperback novels, soap operas, videocassette movies, and a myriad of advertised products from designer jeans to disposable razors make up our everyday environment. Stephen King novels, Levi's jeans, McDonald's golden arches are instantly recognizable symbols or icons of contemporary pop culture"(Culture and Communications 4). We recognize these businesses all around the U.S. by just the icons and signs we remember from an everyday glance. Looking back at the culture from the early 19th century to now is very liberal and doesn't depend on the class people come from. As we still view some elite culture from time to time out society today has come to become a mass-produced culture that is present in our daily actions and behaviors.
Mass Culture

         There's a significant amount of time that goes into a communication process in which some people don't know about but hear about daily. There are different types of communications including intrapersonal and interpersonal communications but the steps to communicate an interpersonal takes a lot more exertion than intrapersonal. It takes several people to be able to communicate a news report starting with the source then the messenger, to the channel, and followed by the receiver."When communicators select symbols for their messages, they must keep in mind that each person has a different frame or reference and, as a result , certain symbols may mean different things to different people"(Culture and Communication 8). When sending a message to a big audience it is important to pick specific pictures that mean the same meaning to different types of people. When communicating to other people, pictures do a better job of understanding the message being applied than words. The receiver getting the message from the messenger sometimes has a hard time understanding the concept of the message being sent causing misunderstanding usually from the description of the pictures shown. If the message is misunderstood there's a feedback person who corrects the receiver if he/she has gotten the concept wrong."...a word takes on connotations or emotional meanings that are based on experiences rather than on the word's dictionary meaning. Take the words liberal and conservative. These words mean different things to different people, based on individual political points of view"(Culture and Communications 10).  If one thing means a certain thing to another person it might mean the exact opposite to a different person. We all think different things. This process can have some issues concerning communication noise. There are three different noises that could make everything go wrong. The three including the channel noise, semantic noise, psychological noise, and selective exposure which all lead to misunderstanding and miscommunications in between the communication process. "... we expose ourselves to information that reinforces rather than contradicts our beliefs or opinions... Selective exposure also helps to explain why people with extreme political views have difficulty getting their ideas across to the general public..."(Culture and Communications 11). When certain people have strong political views it can change the way the receiver will receive the message being delivered.


Monday, April 6, 2015

Smoke Signals

          Victor and Thomas are two young adults that live on an Indian reservation in Plummer, Idaho and connect through Victor's father, Arnold that Thomas calls a hero. Throughout this film Smoke Signals there are several symbols that appear to be based around the whole story. Since the fire had happened Thomas always called Arnold a hero for saving him but for Victor he always had trouble getting along with his father. "You know there are some children who aren't really children at all, they're just pillars of flame that burn everything they touch. And there are some children who are just pillars of ash, that fall apart when you touch them... Victor and me, we were children of flame and ash"(Smoke Signals). Fire and water is very symbolic throughout this film because the way fire can help with protection but can also hurt and kill things. As it is the opposite for water it embellishes the fire also a source in protecting and healing things from burning. Another symbolic appearance in the film is when Thomas compares Victor's father to a salmon towards the end of the film. Since July 4th, the day of the fire Victor and Thomas has never got along well. "Thomas I wish that fire had killed you"(Smoke Signals). Victor always hated Thomas because he thought that Arnold had saved Thomas instead of his own son but then finally realized towards the end of the film that he saved both of them. When it finally came to dumping the ashes in the river Victor gave some of his dad's ashes to Thomas like he was a brother to him."Victor I am going to make one more trip to the river and I am going to toss these in and your Dad's ashes will rise and rise into the heavens, just like the salmon. Funny I was thinking about doing the same thing myself. I mean I never thought of my dad like a salmon but it would be just like cleaning out the attic, like throwing things away when they have no more use"(Smoke Signals). When Thomas relates Arnold to a salmon because of how salmon swim upstream and spend their whole life swimming upstream and get beaten against the rocks. With Arnold being a native and growing up around natives they struggle daily through these obstacles about being different from other people. Like salmon, Natives spend their whole life trying to fit in because of what other people think of them but in reality we are all the same. 




         
          Natives are known to have a certain stereotype of being alcoholisms but that can be present with any other race as well. Throughout the film Arnold always found alcohol to be a pain reliever from what had been done in the past with him being in the war and setting the house on fire killing Thomas's parents. "Thomas you don't even know my father. Did you know that my father was the one that set your parent's house on fire? Did you know that my father beat my mother? Did you know that my father beat me too? All I know is that when your father left your mother lost you too"(Smoke Signals). Victor and his mother were the only ones that saw the true Arnold and the main reason of why he left. Arnold was very violent towards Victor, his mother, and even Thomas but Thomas only looked at him for being a hero. It was hard for Victor to like his dad as much as Thomas did and that's why Victor would get mad at Thomas for saying those things. "I never had a drop of alcohol in my life, not a drop. What kind of Indian are you?"(Smoke Signals) This is an important quote from the film because Natives are known to drink all the time and being a son of a native Victor didn't want to become like his dad. When sheriff asked if he drank he was very surprised that he had never drank before in his life because of the stereotype that natives have. "Do we forgive our fathers in our age or in theirs? Or in their deaths, saying it to them, or not saying it? If we forgive our fathers what is left?"(Smoke Signals) This last quote that Thomas said in the film was that even when our closest loved ones sometimes may be violent and mean we can always find a way to forgive them.